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Magnus
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PostSubject: Why don't the 2nds train?   Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:43 pm

Just putting it out there - what are the reasons the 2nd team players don't train regularily?
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harvey b
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:45 pm

IM out till Jan with back trouble
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:59 pm

There were only two 2nd XV on tuesday

To be honest if the boys want the seconds then they have to train.

Not trainijng just makes it easy for 1stXV mediocracy to carryone and poor selection to take place.

Simply put the coaches dont have to worry about anyone kicking up a fuss cos the boys are at home watching QVC and doing their nails?
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:08 pm

ITS THE end of jan now and still no 2nds train on a tuesday may be 1 or 2 at best ,, seems to be a split in the club between the seconds ,, its very odd.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:39 pm

Dildo guest you obviously dont train tht often, last month 2nd team have had the same unopossed run as 1stXV, Tuesday is still poor normlly 6 but its sh*t for the firsts.

Maybe if thursdays were more competitive (let me spell it out thicko) first against seconds then things normally change (again spell it out thicko) seconds taking first to town again and again.

Can you fell it. HUH
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:41 pm

I forgot to say


I bet you have amber and brown showers and you garggle it (aaarrrggggghhhh) baby!
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:50 pm

I wonder how many seconds will train tonight...?


I reckon 3, anybody want to raise me? ha ha
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PostSubject: Get off our field   Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:32 am

Please do not use more than half a field ever again.... its a rugby pitch - what do you think you are doing..... you know the drill - 1sts get all the pitch - seconds don't matter so I'll shout at you and tell you to f-off when you practice kick offs next time. Team Spirit Lives On!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:58 am

I think its time we scrapped the 2nds what a waste of space. They only train when there is a game and not one of them as ambtion to crack the 1st.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:28 pm

what do you mean none of them I know for a fact that there are at least 3-4 players that do and maybe ahvent had a fair crack at playing in the 1sts this season e.g. David may, Garan Hill, Geraint Locke or maybe you dont consider them 2nd team players. Saying trhat though having spoken to some of them that they are pissed of with the attitude of a lot of the 2nds even considering moving to play a better standard of rugby which they deserve
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:24 pm

Yup, go on, scrap the seconds-that's obviously the only solution to players not turning up to training. Where, pray tell, would players like the aforementioned David May, Garan Hill and Monkey go when they are deemed surplus to requirements on a Saturday? Think that means they'll leave. What a policy.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:07 pm

Why dont MARFC diversify its opportunities for its players to exel at at a higher and dare i say an international stage.

Can we put the following before the committee for funding the following teams:

1.) Downhill Tandam bicycle rallying
2.) Mountain Cheese rolling and chasing
3.) Fox and Hounds
4.) Hide and Seek
5.) Miskin Bull dogs (same as british but the participants need to be high or infected with the clap)
6.) Stuck in mud

I realy feel with the right committment, strategic leadership and tanacity of our cooks preparing cornbeef and chips to fuel our brethrun we can take the world of Wacky sports for infected or lunatic participants by storm and trully put MARFC back on the map and on top of its game; where it trully belongs.

With regards to the rugby arguement: I think they should all re-train and bolster the teams of the above forementioned disciplines as we are in need of remarkable and talented mutants for the teams of marfc . nanno nanno (peace out in angleish)
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:34 am

Padawan, As mentioned the small number of players that are good enough for the 1st but are in the 2nds i.e david may, craig locke have had enough of the 2nds attuide. They only train when they have a game. They isolate themselves from the rest of the club. You only got to go in the club on a sat and where are all the 2nds. sitting there slagging everybody else. When the really issue is them and there bad atttuide. Why dont thet pull there finger out of there arses go training and who knows maybe one day they might play for the 1st. No its to easy sitting there slagging everybody else off. MUPPETS.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:52 am

who the f**k is craig locke
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Padawan
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:52 am

To be fair Max 60, these so called slagging matches are what tends to happen in rugby-it's almost part of the game in Welsh rugby-indeed almost part of the folklore. You have to understand that not everyone is capable of playing first team rugby, but that does not mean that they don't want to play rugby. Would you begrudge them this and leave them to fuel other clubs? There are far more boys in the seconds with the ability and talent to play first team rugby than those mentioned-you only have to train with them to see that. To tar them all with the same brush as you have done is pretentious and ignorant.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:38 am

Again it seems tht the issue of basics skills and bad grammar has again raised its beast like head as if the phoenix from the ashes.

I believe that the second team are a democratic group of individuals based on that legendary (or indeed folklore) order of the round table. i.e the believe in equality and fairness. with this in mind they were not as you quite elegantly put it 'slagging people off' they were simply debating and negotiating what would be a fairer and more just way of conducting their business.

With regards to the issue of players mentioned only Garran trains and plays for the seconds regulary, some of the others do not feel that the second team are of high enough status for them to covort with. Instead they pretend to be injured or having other plans (eg watching CCFC) and then go watch the firsts rather than having game time.

The only way forward on this dispute is to either:
1.) Have everyone to have an open frank debate on the real issues why some (not all) seconds dont train, the selction process, why some of the Firsts who do not train still get picked and why some first team players feel that they do not have to play for the seconds as a route into the first team.

2.) or my favourite: All players of the senior set up stop complaining like little girls and get up on the training field and the coaches to let the session move in a direction that lets the wheat be seperated from the CHAVs (both first and second, because having played for both over many years there are honestly some firsts that are rubbish as well as some seconds that should be turds).

and lets get both sides reaching to where they should be (and thats a lot higher than where both are at the moment)

Bring back some contact sessions where players who want to fight for their position can!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:08 pm

well padawen maybe people like you are the problem with welsh rugby. How can slagging off and generally being negative. Be a good thing. Surely all our teams should be pulling in the same direction. Not distances themselves and dragging each other down. My concern is for the younger players in the 2nds who are not being shown a good example by some of the senior players in the 2nd squad. how the hell are these players ever going to develop if they are not training. Lets be honest our 1st are having a very good season. They just come off a 12 game winning streak. We are 3rd in the league and in still in the cup. Who could u drop from that squad? and replace them with whom? If we where losing then fine. But surely you do not change a winning formula. The way i see it is. Its easier to stay at home on a tuesday+thursday watching eastenders. Then to actually go training work hard and put your hand up. Its also very easy to slag off coaches and everybody else for your lazy ass. MUPPETS
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:13 pm

where are all these second team meetings, where they are supposedly "slagging people off" people obviously dun look at the relationships between first and seconds players who sit together and have a drink week in week out with the coaches, this rift in the club between first and seconds is a load of bollocks, im a young member playing for the seconds and i look upto to every senior member of the team and coaching staff and have respect for all of them as they have helped me improve my game and given constructive critisism. I mite not ever get into the first but i couldn't give a toss, im one of a few 2nds team players that train tuesdays and thursdays when i can and i train to play and i play because i love the game, if ur dropped u are going to be gutted so improve your performance and get back in the squad don't bitch and cry about it, so all this sh*t on this forum is a load of bollocks y dun people put names on here to show who is saying what !!!

and who the f**k is craig locke he is Tub one of if not the best 2nd row in the club at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:48 pm

Max, you've been awfully presumptious there mate. As for me being the sole reason behind Welsh rugby's inability to have a positive outlook, are you telling me you've never, not once, sat down after one of the 1st's games and decided that someone didn't do their job? No, of course you haven't because it seems Max that you are the only impartial watcher of rugby on this planet. As for your question "how can slagging people off and generally being negative be a good thing?", you should probably pay more attention to our head coaches-as I can tell you now, they are not positive and uplifting characters. Their approach is the same as every other rugby fan-with the exception of yourself. So I mean, you seem to be the shining light of Welsh rugby, indeed world rugby. Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:11 pm

there ar now a few weeks left of the season, these boys who are complaining about not playing 1st team rugby need to look at them selves now. Start hard traing (on their own or as well as with the club) ready for pre season trainging in the summer, so thay can trun up there fit and ready to show they are ready for 1st team rugby. there is no point being un fit come the summer,
1) get fit
2) get tough
3) turn up in the summer and show ur the bussiness.

it take more than a few months looking at the state of some of the player out there.
If u want it u gota come and grab it ,,
I am ,, see u in the summer!!
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:53 pm

Padawen, You are right i am a one off. You miss my point. Everybody is entitled to critise players if they so wish but lets be honest only a complete moron could find negative in our current sitution. 12 games unbeaten semi final of cup. If you look closely enough you will find negative in everything. The first are playing some top rugby at moment. But u muppet have found a negative in that. Im guessing your pint is always half empty.
You did not answer my question though. Which 1st team player would you drop from the current squad and which 2nd team player would you replace them with. Like i said u cant change a winning formula.
I would like to take this oppurnity to apolgise for putting the wrong name on here. I mistakenly put tubs name on here instead of monkeys. I have brought deep shame on my family and friends and at the moment finding it hard to live with myself. IM SORRY!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:31 am

so why did nicky griff get dropped?? He been playing ok havent he. I know pod is prob better but treherbert would be confidence builder.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:18 pm

ok i will admit when i am wrong. Nicky as been playing well. I would not have dropped him for tonights game.
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PostSubject: Re: Why don't the 2nds train?   Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:06 am

No I'm sorry, but I haven't found a negative in the way the firsts are playing, in fact I think they are by far the best side in the league atm undoubtedly. I'm not going to bother with the whole "only a moron could find a negative lark" cause it seems somebody got there first. I'm not here to pick fights mate, I'm just here tp express an opinion like you-I am sorry if it's a different opinion to yours but that's the beauty of these forum things. I never said I would replace anyone from the firsts atm, but if you so wish, I'd put mayo in at full back. Congrats to the boys on Friday, we're looking good fair do's.
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